I do know this person in real life, however all identifying references have been removed. (If you’d like to out yourself man, be my guest but I’m going to respect your privacy as not all the internet is as forgiving as others.) I share this with you because I’ve found that a lot of people put pressure on other people to find God, once they finally do they are told they found the wrong God because it’s not their God. This chat occurred last night after a tweet about my disdain for BYU.
Man:
Man from MyBlog here, are you there?
Casey:
yup
Man:
wanna here my thoughts? are should i leave you be?
Casey:
about me being a bad person? I’m totally interested.
Man:
oh, so you already know? : )that helps
Casey:
are you kidding me?
Man:
well, i am right now
Casey:
a lot gets lost in translation in 140 characters or less.
Man:
but i stopped following you because i think you use cheapness to garner attention
Casey:
that’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it.
Man:
indeed it is
and i read enuf on your blog to wonder why you would call yourself LDS
you might guess i’m totally against LDS…but
Casey:
are you sure you’re reading the right blog?
Man:
if you are gonna say that’s what you believe it ought to show. yeah, the one i read had to do with gays
Casey:
I love all people.
Man:
it was a while back, i even made a comment. i love all people too
Casey:
the prop 8 post?
Man:
probably but wait…you use sex a lot in your posts to excite
Casey:
I really don’t…
Man:
that’s not an approved Biblical concept there
Casey:
I’m not even sure I’ve used the word sex in any post of mine.
Man:
you probably haven’t, but c’mon
Casey:
It is and approved biblical concept that I make out with my husband.
Did your wife ever experience infertility?
Or anyone close to you?
Man:
i even remember when we met at [that thing we met at], and i saw you twittering in the big room…
hang on – short phone call, almost done if you’re still there
Casey:
I’m sorry that you think I’m cheap. Or that I gave you the wrong impression, but who I am online is who I am in real life. Whether you like it or not, nobody’s opinion of me will ever change who I am unless it’s my opinion or God’s.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to accomplish.
No one forces you to read my blog or my tweets.
Man:
it would be a lot easier to have a conversation about this, but i don’t think that’s what you’d wanna do. mostly i’d just like to encourage you to take a serious look at God’s word and compare that to how you think…
i’m not here to bash you, but you words are not in line with Biblical teaching…
you can get mad at me if you want
but you need to hear that
Casey:
I’m not mad, I just don’t argue about God, what works for me doesn’t work for you and vice versa and that’s fine.
Man:
for YOUR good, not mine
Casey:
And that’s fine.
Man:
not really fine, either one, or both of us is wrong
Casey:
What does it matter if we are both happy with our lives?
Man:
cuz happy don’t get you to Heaven, you might be happy and go to heaven…but i sure wouldn’t trade happy here for Hell
and before you get mad, i’m not saying you are going to hell…i don’t have any way to know
Casey:
I’m not going to hell, neither are you…
Man:
ok, but why do you think you are not? do you wanna try a short skype call?
Casey:
I don’t understand why it’s so important to you?
If you don’t like the LDS religion wouldn’t you rather me be out there perpetuating your negative image of my chosen faith?
Man:
do you remember that i run the pro-life music fest?
Casey:
I do remember that, a worthy cause.
Man:
no, i want you to go to Heaven
Casey:
I am going to heaven.
Man:
LDS won’t get you there
Casey:
It will get me there, and my family will be there too.
Man:
well, then it seems to me that you don’t believe the Bible and you are more than free to not believe, it just comes with consequences
Casey:
I do believe…is this based soley on the prop 8 post?
Man:
no, not at all
Casey:
I mean the last post I did was about my difficulties in trying to have a baby, the one before that was about feeding hungry children. I had one about how much I love my husband and my child.
Man:
so, good cancels bad? no sin if you do enuf good?
Casey:
I just don’t get what I write about that is so offensive to you?
Man:
that’s noy Biblical
Casey:
I don’t get where my glaring sins come through on my blog, yes I have them, but who are you to judge? I leave the Judging up to Jesus. As it should be. Why are you so worried about my salvation anyway? I’ve got it figured out for me.
Man:
as do i, but the Bible clearly teaches that we should confront those who say they believe but aren’t walking as they should
Casey:
I love my life.
Man:
that’s not judging
Casey:
Ah ha…well. my blog is 1/16th of my actual ife.
Man:
God is the only one who can judge, i have no power
Casey:
if you only see 1/16th of my actual life (if even that) I’m pretty sure I’m good.
Man:
no one is good, certainly not me
Casey:
me nither, but I do my best from sun up to sundown.
Man:
that’s the problem, we are all headed to Hell, unless…
Casey:
I slip sometimes.
Man:
unless we find the way that leads to Heaven
Casey:
That’s the difference, we are not all headed to hell.
Man:
and that’s only thru Christ
Casey:
we are headed to different degrees of heaven. I can send you some missionaries to explain it to you…
Man:
we are all born headed for Hell, you don’t agree?
Casey:
nope. where’s the hope in that?
Man:
you don’t seem to know much about the Bible the hope is only in Christ
Casey:
you don’t seem to know much about my faith.
Man:
that’s the point!
Casey:
so why not let me worship as I please?
Man:
you can, i care enuf to converse tho, if you want me to leave, i will
Casey:
I’m not changing my faith on the opinion of anyone.
Man:
didn’t expect you would…but i did hope to challenge your thoughts and to do so in love
Casey:
what religion do you consider yourself?
Man:
Christian
Casey:
what denomination?
Man:
not a denomination
Casey:
OH. well
Man:
there aren’t any in the Bible it’s all about Christ
Casey:
the name of my church is the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
He’s in the name, yo.
Man:
denominations are like clubs to people these days
Casey:
well, I like my “club”
Man:
yeah, i know, i was one when i was akid
Casey:
LDS? or in a club
Man:
but Christ is not at the center of LDS
Casey:
he totally is.
Man:
and that’s easy to research
Casey:
if you only look for what you want to look for.
Man:
not the Christ of the Bible…they’ve made a different one – similar but different
Casey:
my husband keeps telling me this is never going to end.
Man:
probably right
Casey:
You are a child of God, I am a child of God, Jesus loves you, Jesus loves me, please respect me because I respect you.
Man:
well, that certainly takes the “i’m a sinner and need salvation” part out of it all
Casey:
That’s not what I said…
Man:
that’s usually what people wanna leave out and that’s the pivot point
Casey
Man, goodnight.
Man:
well, i haven’t been mean or nasty
Casey:
I haven’t said you have been.
Man:
so i hope that speaks to you
Casey:
I hope I haven’t been either.
Man:
and, i did just what you said, i stopped following you
Casey:
I appreciate your concern in sharing your opinion.
Man:
that’s what started this
Casey:
People unfollow me everyday.
Man:
but i do wish you would want to talk about all this
Casey
People send me nasty letters when they find out my choice of religion.
Man:
that’s not why i left
Casey:
They like me up until they find out why I’m “one of them” I like being “one of them”
Man:
it’s because you use the weakness of human nature to puff you up and that’s cheap
Casey:
the weakness of human nature?
Man:
just as i said, our sinful nature
Casey:
that BYU stinks?
Man:
your posts appeal to our sinful nature a lot, that’s my point
Casey:
There’s a lot of other bloggers who need a lot more help than me.
Wha?
Man:
why would someone wanting to please God do that? yes there are, but i only know you
Casey:
allow me to introduce you to a few…
Man:
you do remember me from [that place we met], right?
Casey:
I do remember you
Man:
you sat at my table in the big room
Casey:
yes. and we sat along the wall and talked about your concerts
Man:
and then at the meeting in the evening, yeah, so, i met you, maybe for a reason
Casey:
or maybe I met you for a reason.
Man:
maybe
Casey:
I want to spend friday evening with my husband, Man.
Man:
but i can tell you that i have experienced Christ in a way that gives me the strength to say you can put a bullet in my head, I will never deny Him
Casey:
Same here, goodnight Man.
Man:
i honestly doubt it…. have agreat eve
Now, I may not spend every waking moment and every word bringing people and glory to God in obvious ways, but I’m pretty confident in saying I’ve never scared anyone away from Him.
I’m leaving comments open as long as everyone can play nice. No name calling. If you must name call tell me what color your bedsheets are instead.
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I don’t really have a lot of nice things to say. Scratch that. I have nothing nice to say.
I love you and stuff (well, look at that, I had ONE nice thing to say).
PURPLE NURPLE.
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Uhh… I’m bugged. My sheets are mint green.
I find religion to be intensely personal even within the LDS faith. At least for me, religion is very much so a one on one relationship with God. That relationship is unique only to you. No one should be able to sit back and say that you aren’t following God because that isn’t their place to decide.
I hope that doesn’t qualify as name calling! If it does… meh.
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I do not agree with the teachings of LDS, nor do you believe in the teachings of the Baptist denomination (I am assuming here, but am pretty sure I am spot on), but you know what? I love you and I don’t judge you. Religious freedom is one of the many things that makes this country great. No matter what interpetation you get from the Bible, I have never read any part of it that tells us to judge, or hate, or tell people that they are foolish. It does say to love thy neighbor as thyself (even if they’re aetheist). If someone is hatelful or judgemental or spiteful towards me it tells me a lot about how they feel about themselves. And that makes me sad for them, but not sad for me. Love you! Hugs!
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I’ve already told you what I think about this white-sheeted Egyptian cotton son of brown fleece. I’d like to take his paisley 1000-count sheets and sheet them up his sheeting sheet. What a mothersheeter.
Oh, I think it got away from me there.
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“as do i, but the Bible clearly teaches that we should confront those who say they believe but aren’t walking as they should”
Jesus said “Let he who is WITHOUT sin cast the first stone.”
“there aren’t any in the Bible it’s all about Christ” (regarding denominations)
Um hello Dude…Jesus was JEWISH. Temple, circumcision, yadda yadda. Might want to read your Bible again.
My sheets are green.
And Casey’s cool.
Nobody’s born for hell.
geesh.
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That Post seemed kind of pointless? I understand your choice to follow a certain religion, isn’t a dialogue about it even if it’s not the best conversation still a way to find out about yourself and people in general? There is always an opportunity to learn from everyone and what they have to say. Even if you don’t want to hear it. Griping about it won’t get you anywhere.
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I am not only a non-Mormon, but a person who doesn’t believe or belong to an organized religion. I grew up in Salt Lake City and most of my friends and much of my family are Mormon. Since moving out East, I’ve encountered so many that judge my friends and Mormonism in general (among so much more). And what I’ve never, ever understood is the hypocrisy of other faiths judging each other. Just tell me how that is Christ-like? And what exactly did he think that was going to happen from this conversation? That you would denounce your faith? Some people just really make me laugh… 🙂
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Good grief.
Blue.
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I struggle with “faith” issues a lot, I don’t really know what I believe in and what I don’t. Most of the time I consider myself agnostic. That being said I really enjoy your LDS posts because I like to learn about other people’s faith from people like you who manage to “teach” without “preaching”. My hope is that someday I can be as confident and secure in my beliefs as you are in yours.
You seriously rock in the patience category!
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I am Catholic. My mother in law is a former Catholic, and now considers herself ‘born again Christian’ – I have had conversations absolutely similar to this with her and they make me so sad.
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My sheets are brown. But I am going to put the blue ones on today.
Nice way to handle the “man”
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In this world were not all going to agree about things. We can only agree to disagree.
Great job keeping your cool.
BTW my bedsheets are red
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“Man” oh-so ironically said it correctly when he said “that’s the point!”
😉
My sheets are…
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Casey, I think you were really patient and respectful. But I also think he was pretty respectful. I don’t think twitter lends itself to really coherent discussions about faith, obviously. But it sounded like both of you were calmly trying to present your position, and you disagreed. Even if you walk away disagreeing, even if you walk away really annoyed, at least we have the freedom to have these conversations.
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My sheets are about 84 years old with huge, giant roses scattered all over them. But they’re flannel and COZY.
I hate when people try to argue religion. How can God be represented when people feel angry, judgmental, or superior???
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Hey–got here through tallulah mankiller’s blog. This post…just…wow. I freely admit I didn’t finish it, because…just wow. I will occasionally be seized by patience and a desire to speak with such people, but the older I get, the more I realize that conversations like that are potential hours of my life I ain’t ever gettin’ back. Some dialogues are just over before they’ve begun, and people like that are the reason.
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I thought the man was respectful. These type of dialogues, however, never go anywhere. I was raised LDS and am not now. I’m Christian and I like to think of God as a relational God and not a denominational God. I can’t tell you what heaven looks like, and I hope I will never be able to tell you what hell looks like. I follow you and will continue to do so. Your ‘sex’ stuff doesn’t bother me at all, but I think the point the man was trying to make was that maybe talking about your ability to not moan while orgasming on a treadmill isn’t something Christ would approve of telling the world. And maybe talking about “faking it for hot men”…which, lets be honest, people again took this as a reference to an orgasm, and you can’t deny that you titled it that way so people WOULD think that. The Bible (and the Book of Mormon) teach how to love and respect the one you’re married to…maybe telling about how hot your doc is and that you “fake it” for him, maybe to the man, isn’t the best way to show your commitment to your spouse. I’m guessing this is the type of stuff he’s talking about when he says you use sex talk to excite, and say things that appeal to our sinful nature, etc. Not saying I agree with him, just throwing my idea of him out there. And I think you’re doing just fine on the path of Mormonism. And I think you’re funny as hell…I mean, funny as purple.
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I’m LDS, and I grew up in the South. A boy broke up with me one time after his preacher delivered a sermon against Mormons specifically. Luckily, I was only 12, so I wasn’t too crushed.
I really don’t understand why some people want to force their beliefs on you. This also reminds me of the people who insist that our church is really a sham, but we’re just not in a “high enough” position to know. They’ll say, “I knew a guy who used to be a pretty high up pastor in your church who told me in your temples.” Obviously, he has no idea what he’s talking about. And then you know that it’s not even worth it, but at the same time, this guy is going to perpetuate gross untruths to people who will believe him because they don’t know what we believe. You just can’t win with people like that, you know?
Anyway, sorry for the ramble. My bedsheets don’t match.
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Did you say this started about BYU? Weird.
Still, most people forget that pride makes them confront others about religion more than love does (no matter what they say). And where does pride fall amongst God’s rulebook?
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The fact that you handled that without expletives proves you are definitely ahead of me in the “get into Heaven” line (you know, if I actually believed in that stuff).
In all seriousness, take a page from Cool Hand Luke (or, Guns ‘n’ Roses, if you must), “What we’ve got here is… failure to communicate. Some men you just can’t reach, so you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gits it.”
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My sheets are black, but I’ve got one red pillowcase and one pink striped one, because I somehow managed to lose the FOUR black pillowcases we had.
And don’t even try to imagine what all that mess looks like with a light green bedspread. OY.
Ahem–as for the blog post itself…I have never understood the whole “If you don’t start walking the path, you’re going to BURN!” school of thought. Why would I choose to believe in a God who’s always got one hand on the flame-thrower? And an itchy trigger finger, to boot? And why would you want to convert someone through fear, when the whole point of God is supposed to be love?
My co-religionists puzzle me. This is why I don’t go to church anymore.
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What the crap.
You are a person of infinite patience, Casey. I would have lasted maybe about zero minutes. While I’m not Christian, I’m Buddhist, Jesus pretty much rocks in my books (I have my degree in religion and my parents are Christian, so I’m fairly well versed here.) That being said, I’ll never understand the reason for arguing the finer points of what is essentially the same faith… They like their bedsheets and you like yours. In the end, they’re both still bedsheets and both get you to the same place. Bugger off other bedsheet dude… Casey rocks.
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I’m not meaning to bash you personally Casey, I respect what you know in your church and that you feel it works for your life. But I can’t help but comment.
One of the things that gets me in these comments, and gets me in general about your writing and your explanations of the LDS faith, is this. This is not a matter of denominational differences… this IS a religion difference. Christianity and the LDS faith are NOT the same. You say your church is called The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, “Jesus is in the name”… if it’s as simple as Jesus Christ, then why tack on the LDS and all the other stuff that goes with it??
LDS claims to believe in the Bible, but that we’re not in danger of ending up in hell? That there are different degrees to Heaven and that the things we do in this life dictate where we go, when the Bible clearly states it’s about who we know (Christ) and how we know him (which will then play out in our life). That is our salvation period.
LDS is a scary thing to me. I have spent years researching the history and the stated beliefs of the church, on my own and alongside many of my LDS friends. I really don’t understand how anyone can believe the basis of this religion. If you really take a look at it -not just what you’re taught and the way in which you’re taught it- but look at things for yourself it just does not make sense. And not in a “you have to just have faith” or “you have to depend on the ‘burning in your bosom'” kind of not making sense… it just doesn’t add up; divinely or otherwise.
There is a ton of shady stuff going on in the LDS church, and has been for it’s whole life. I’m not talking about on an individual level (because we all know that is true in any religion or denomination), but on an organizational scary control level. And it’s covered up by this religion they play off as so nice and neat and pretty and feel good and everyone looks the other way.
The sliver of redemption of the LDS faith is the fact that they do use the Bible and “believe” in the “same” God and His son Jesus Christ. But sadly, that light of that Truth is overwhelmingly shadowed and downplayed by the other beliefs thrown in there.
That’s what makes it so scary… it’s played off as such a great religion and is so appealing to people searching for something. And I’m not saying it’s a complete farce; people are really happy being LDS. It’s not all bad… in fact the majority of laypeople in the church really have no idea the true “religion” they’re in.
Okay, I didn’t mean to go off like that. I didn’t start this meaning to do that. I just wanted to say, I can see where Man was coming from. I would personally never say ay of that to someone I don’t know well, -calling you on how you’re living your life and being a witness?- and I’m not sure he went about things in a productive way… but I’m impressed with the conversation you two had, even though it seemed to go in circles and end up nowhere better than before.
But I don’t think he sounded prideful or judgmental… just humble and concerned. And I can relate with that when it comes to caring about people in the LDS faith.
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I truly believe organized religion was the worst thing to ever happen to God. What a quick job they did of mucking it all up.
Mad respect for how you handled yourself.
This Irish Catholic would have had a totally different approach that would have likely ended in a restraining order. And I sure don’t need another one of those on my record, yo.
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i’m so glad to call you my friend, Casey.
that is all.
oh, well, that and my sheets are brown and blue.
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It always frustrates me when people try to condemn members of ANY church whithout a full knowledge of that religion. I think you did a wonderful job Casey – and for the record… I don’t think you use anything in your posts to feed off of other’s sins. Actually quite the opposite. I think a lot of what you say is inspiring and uplifting more than anything else.
I can’t believe he told you that he doubts you would take a bullet rather than deny Jesus…
Ugh. Okay, okay, my sheets are blue.
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Oh MY God… You so have other things to deal with than this LIGHT BLUE SHEETS who really has his LIGHT BLUE SHEETS where LIGHT BLUE SHEETS go! Wow, I want to say so much more…
You are a good person, and a great mom, and a great wife, and WAAAAAY more patient than I am….
Flannel light blue sheets rule!
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I feel compelled to say SOMETHING, but I have no idea how, you know? Like…I’m a little floored here. And frustrated.
I guess I almost want to apologize. I think he was trying to be respectful, but I dont agree with the way he went about it. I am a Christian, and while I may not always agree with other religions, I respect that they have made a choice just as I have made one, you know? I dont pretend to believe that you and I believe the same things, that we practice the same religion. I think we definately dont, but that doesnt mean I dont love you. Or that I condemn you. And I believe you would say the same to anyone else that isnt of your religion.
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I am going to name call myself….but thats ok, right?
I’m a Jesus freak christian who loves me some Mormons and anyone who loves God. Any and all people are welcome in my kingdom of heaven.
And I have chocolate brown bedsheets.
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you are a far more patient person than I. while i may not agree with a person’s choice of religion, i never think i’m going to heaven and they’re not. who am i to make that assumption?
like i said, you have a heart of gold, and you’re totally in charge of snacks for the bus ride to heaven.
oh, and my sheets are apple green today. just had to throw that one in there because *OH THE DESIRE TO NAMECALL*
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A person doesn’t have to be a Christian to subscribe to the old saying “Point a finger and see three more pointing back at you.” Man, DUDE, I’m still not sure I understand what you were trying to accomplish by conversing with Casey. Is it because it’s Lent? I want to believe that your intentions were well-meaning. But I just can’t…especially when I think Casey has good, Christian intentions. Man, more than once she’s admitted on this blog to sinful behavior. I have a tremendous respect for her because of it.
So I know I am tetering on the brink of name-calling. I’ll just confess that I’ve owned seven different deadly bedsheets at some point in my life. I’ve made my bed and yes I’ve slept in it. The “sheets” I have right now God knows about. He and I wash them together, daily.
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Umm…..you rock.
That’s all.
You freaking rock.
And you have the patience of Saints.
My sheets are white with lime green polka-dots.
xox
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It always amazes me that those who profess to be oh so Christian are the ones that are oh so judgemental. I am barely Catholic, but I am pretty sure I am more Christ-like in my “everyone deserves love” philosophy than man was with his “let me tell you why you suck” crap.
And, to avoid calling anyone names… I will just say my sheets are burgundy.
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Wow! That’s sad he just doesn’t understand our religion at all! I think he wanted you to listen but he didn’t want to listen to what you were saying. It’s sad people learn or hear incorrect things and they totally believe them even when they actually meet someone who can tell them the truth! Hopefully his heart will be softened and he will be able to really listen one day!
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“Man:
as do i, but the Bible clearly teaches that we should confront those who say they believe but aren’t walking as they should”
1. Someone has GOT to get me a copy of that verse
2. WHY do so many “well meaning, upstanding, perfectly inline with God” Christians believe that they can take that verse & use it as a battering ram against the lesser people who don’t believe as well as they do?
Suburban Turmoil just got hit by that same battering ram … it’s enough to make the rest of us keep our lights hidden under bushels. Apparently if you can’t be perfect you better keep your faith hidden around the internets. Good to know.
I have BRIGHT teal green bedsheets. My MIL bought them for me, but they are 1,000 thread count so I forgive the hidious color.
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You are FAR more patient than I. I wouldn’t have continued that conversation. There are many people who don’t necessarily practice the same form of Christianity as I do, with regards to denomination and such, but that doesn’t bother me. I also like non-Christians too, and don’t believe they’ve been condemned or anything like that. Good people who live giving, caring, loving lives? Why would I ever, ever object to that?
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Wow Casey. I know the conversation was supposed to be about religion but I couldn’t help but envision some weirdo trying to grab you and pull you into their van (so to speak). I’m glad you didn’t accept a skype conversation with this person. Maybe I am overreacting because I have had a stalker, but that convo tone gave me the creeps.
As for the topic itself. I don’t know you IRL but I can tell you are a good person and I would consider you a sister because of that goodness that radiates from you and I would have no doubt even though I am Catholic and you are LDS that we will both be in heaven together which ever path we took to get there. 😉
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What scares me is how whack jobs like this are given more of a voice in our political system which is supposed to be “tolerable to ALL religions” than so many other religions. I don’t see where it’s anyone’s business (but your own) what you believe and whether you are going to hell or not. If salvation and heaven are your concern, shouldn’t that be personal and private between you and whatever version of a deity you feel is the right one for you?
And I don’t see where he gets that your blog is very un-biblical. Seems to me you focus a lot on having a loving family that supports the members within it and helping others. Sure, some of it might be about other things but no one spends ALL their time worrying about if what they are thinking and doing is sinful or not, or no one would ever get anything done.
The “holier than thou” crap is probably what drives a lot of people AWAY from religion.
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I really dislike when people think they know more about a religion than someone who *practices* that religion.
Light green.
Dark lipsticky red.
Emily Rs last blog post..Helpful
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This week’s bedsheets are green.
This here Catholic married an Episcapalin. We divorced and I proceeded to date a Methodist, a Baptist, and even a Buddist (can you imagine?) My best friend from high school is Jewish. And I sat next to a Morman (is that not the correct term anymore) at Blissdom09 (that’s you) that made me laugh my butt off.
PS – while we’re Catholic and go to mass every week, we live in the bible belt in VA and so we get alot of Baptists going door to door to invite people to thier church and their best offer is that they will pick you up on Sunday and take you. My mom always asks if the bus has air conditioning…
Kellis last blog post..Live Love Laugh
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Hey Casey, I read your blog all the time but have never commented. I just wanted to say my two cents here. I am totally not religious at all, I was raised Catholic but really all that means to me is that I celebrate Christmas and Easter. However what I DO strongly believe is that if we all try our hardest to be good people to the fullest extent of your own ability then we will go the heaven or whatever that nice place is when we pass. Their are a million different religions on this earth. In my opinion they can all be right… Someone has it wrong. But no one of us on this earth knows which is right. Why hate on other religions? We are each entitled to believe what we believe and that’s that. As long as what you believe is in a loving manner then just let others be. This guy attacking you for not believing what he does is wrong and extremely hateful and totally negates his cause. If God created us all then he meant for us to all love and respect each other equally. I don’t know maybe that’s just what I believe.
As for you being Mormon. I have never met a Mormon person before because I grew up on NY my whole life. Honestly you have showed me that people of your religion are not weird or different or whatever just people of another faith. I think you do a lovely job of sharing where you come from without forcing anything on anyone else.
So in closing I think your lovely and this guy is just a big poop head =)
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I’m Catholic, I have white sheets and I love you.
Momo Falis last blog post..What’s Your Feather?
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You rock.
My sheets are grey suprima cotton…so soft!
Domestic Extraordinaires last blog post..Haiku Friday-Cherishing life with co-pays
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Delurking to say you have amazing patience. Religion is a very personal choice.
Oh, and my sheet are bright yellow.
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You handled that with far more patience and even-headed-ness than many people.
I’ve never understood why people get so upset over who is believing in the right god. Unless someone has discussed divine law with the almighty over tea, they can’t be 100% sure they’ve got it all right.
We’re all imperfect. And many of us do our best to live good lives. I don’t need to know a person believes the same as me to know she’s a good person and a friend.
Christinas last blog post..Middle-of-the-Night Ghostly Visits
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I don’t comment often on your blog Case, but that is only because I feel I don’t need to. You KNOW how much you mean to me and how much I cherish our friendship.
You AND your beliefs have brought me profound moments of peace when I needed them most.
We may not belong to the same club but I do believe we love the same Jesus.
It bothers me more than I can freely articulate without busting out the curse words you despise that this person was not listening to you and not hearing you speak. I just want to shake him on your behalf. Argh.
There is not a day that goes by that I am not thankful for our friendship and for the way you have and continue to challenge me to inspect and examine and strengthen my own beliefs.
I love you chicklet.
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You titled your post right. This is exactly the kind of stuff that makes it hard to find God. I grew up in a staunchly Baptist home, with a staunchly conservative Christian father, attending staunchly conservative evangelical churches. And you know what? I think all that “staunchness” served to hurt and divide and offend and deflect more than it did to love and draw close to others. I’m much happier now that the staunchness has settled, and my relationship with God also has much more peace. And I also seem to have more opportunities to share my faith, not preachy faith, but just “this-is-how-I-live-it” faith. Go figure.
You done good. Keep being the Mormon you are. I’m pretty sure God takes us all where we’re at, and then it’s up to Him to do with us what He wants to make us into the best versions of ourselves.
Heidis last blog post..Lazy Weekend
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Everything that is to be said about that conversation has already been said, but that reminded me, I miss your teaching entries. The learn about my religion entries. Those were very informative and I think they need to come back!! Pretty please?
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Casey, this guy so wants to get into your pants.
This whole convo was not about his concerns with the church or your faith or your salvation.
It’s his psychotic obsession and fetish to engage you in conversation.
Trust me.
I’ve come across weirdo’s like him before…they have no valid points to make and just don’t make sense. at all.
They say they don’t like u, ur life, faith, what u say, do….but they can’t leave u alone…they can’t stop reading ur blog or wanting to chat.
Don’t indulge him any further…
ignore him.
it’s the kind and sane thing to do.
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I heard it once said that the greatest cause of Atheism in the world today is Christians.
~Ex-Adventist, Ex-Badventist, Ex-Non-denominational Christian, possibly part New Ager, part Atheist, part doing what works for me.
Live & let live.
Casey, If you want to hear my story email me. I’m not ready to put it out there for the whole world.
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